I’ve received lots of emails and messages from folks on social media who are struggling to nail down their Enneagram number. Well, let me tell you, if that’s the case for you, this show is spot on.

While only you can determine your own type, there are some things you can do to help get clarity. For those out there who are trying to figure out their type it’s often helpful to read up on wings. Wings are the number on either side of your number. Each of these wings will have a different influence on your type. I would also encourage folks to go to Beatrice Chestnut’s book, The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge and go through the section where she describes the different subtypes. This will really provide some insight and help you nail down that number.

But, what does it look like when that process comes to life?

On today’s show we break it down with Enneagram skeptic, Matt Carter. When we started the show, we had no idea where the interview would take us. And, let me warn you in advance, this show is unlike any I’ve done in the past. In fact, it was so cool that when we wrapped up, Anthony and I were so psyched we laughed out loud. So, strap yourselves in, put on your crash helmets, and enjoy the show.

Matt Carter is a musician, podcaster, and entrepreneur based in Seattle, WA. His career in the music industry began as lead guitarist of the post-punk/hardcore band Emery. His background as a touring musician laid a foundation for various collaborative ventures, including the founding of BadChristian Media and Jabberjaw Media. Matt hosts the wildly popular The BadChristian Podcast and Break it Down Podcast. He continues to tour and perform in Emery and Matt & Toby.

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— Matt Carter

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018: Matt Carter, An Enneagram Skeptic Finds His Number (And So Can You!)